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Pacific Storm and Surf Forecast
Updated: Thursday, October 10, 2024 2:08 PM
Buoys: Northern CA - Southern CA - Hawaii - Gulf of Alaska - Pacific Northwest
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Northern CA - Southern CA - Hawaii - Gulf of Alaska - Pacific Northwest
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2.5 - California & 2.5 - Hawaii
Using the 'Winter' Scale
(See Swell Category Table link at bottom of page)

Probability for presence of largest swells in near-shore waters of NCal, SCal or Hawaii.    
Issued for Week of Monday 10/7 thru Sun 10/13
Swell Potential Rating Categories
5 = Good probability for 3 or more days of Significant swell
4 = Good probability for 1-2 days of Significant swell
3 = Good probability for 3 or more days of Intermediate/Advanced swell
2 = Good probability for  1-2 days of
Intermediate/Advanced swell
1 = Good probability for 3 or more days of Impulse or Windswell
0 = Low probability for 1-2 days of Impulse or Windswell   

Small Swells Still Hitting CA
Gales Forecast for the North and South Pacific

BUOY ROUNDUP
Thursday, October 10, 2024 :

  • Buoy 239 (Lani)/Buoy 238 (Barbers Pt): Seas were 3.2 ft @ 12.5 secs with swell 2.6 ft @ 12.1 secs from 189 degrees. Water temp 81.1 (Barbers Pt), 80.6 (Pearl Harbor 233), 81.0 (Lani 239).
  • Buoy 187 (Pauwela): Seas were 5.6 ft @ 9.9 secs with swell 3.4 ft @ 10.2 secs from 283 degrees. Water temp 79.9 degs
  • Buoy 106 (Waimea)/Buoy 202 (Hanalei): Seas were 4.9 ft @ 11.8 secs with swell 2.6 ft @ 11.6 secs from 336 degrees. Water temp 80.6 degs
  • Buoy 46069 (S. Santa Rose Is): Seas were 7.0 ft @ 12.8 secs with swell 4.4 ft @ 13.5 secs from 293 degrees. Wind northeast at 8-10 kts. Water temperature 62.6 degs, 63.0 (Harvest 071), 64.2 (Topanga 103), 61.9 (Long Beach 215), 65.1 (Oceanside Offshore 045), 63.1 (Del Mar 153), 65.7 (Torrey Pines Outer 100). At Harvest Buoy (071) primary swell was 4.8 ft @ 13.3 secs from 296 degrees. At W. Santa Barbara (46054) swell was 5.3 ft @ 12.8 secs from 288 degrees. At Santa Monica (028) swell was 1.8 ft @ 14.9 secs from 210 degrees. At Green Beach (271) swell was 2.1 ft @ 15.3 secs from 201 degrees. At Oceanside (045) swell was 2.2 ft @ 14.9 secs from 204 degrees. Southward at Pt Loma (191) swell was 2.4 ft @ 14.6 secs from 230 degrees. Water temperature was 63.7 degrees (Imperial Beach).
  • Buoy 029 (Pt Reyes)/Buoy 157 (Pt Sur): Seas were 8.0 ft @ 12.5 secs with swell 5.4 ft @ 13.1 secs from 292 degrees. Wind northwest 16-18 kts (Bodega Bay 46013) and NW 8-10 kts (Half Moon Bay 1801593) and NNW at 2 kts (Monterey Bay (46092). Water temp NA (Bodega Bay 46013), 54.3 degs (Pt Reyes 029), 58.5 (San Francisco 46026), 59.2 (SF Bar 142), 57.9 (Half Moon Bay 1801583), 57.0 (Monterey Bay 46092) and 61.9 (Aptos Creek 275).

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Swell Classification Guidelines

Significant: Winter - Swell 8 ft @ 14 secs or greater (11+ ft faces) for 8+ hours (greater than double overhead).
Summer
- Head high or better.
Advanced: Winter - Swell and period combination capable of generating faces 1.5 times overhead to double overhead (7-10 ft)
Summer - Chest to head high.
Intermediate/Utility Class: Winter - Swell and period combination generating faces at head high to 1.5 times overhead (4-7 ft).
Summer
- Waist to chest high.
Impulse/Windswell: Winter - Swell and period combination generating faces up to head high (1-4 ft) or anything with a period less than 11 secs.
Summer
- up to waist high swell. Also called 'Background' swell.

Surf Heights for Hawaii should be consider 'Hawaiian Scale' if period exceeds 14 secs.

PACIFIC OVERVIEW
Current Conditions
On Thursday (10/10) in North and Central CA waves were 1 ft overhead and lined up with some modest intermixed warble but not too bad. Protected breaks had sets at shoulder to maybe head high and lined up of not closed out and fairly clean. At Santa Cruz surf was unknown due to heavy fog early. In Southern California/Ventura waves were thigh to maybe waist high and lined up with good form and soft and real clean early. Central Orange County had sets at waist high and lined up and clean early but inconsistent. South Orange County's best summertime breaks had sets at head high or maybe a little more and lined up and real clean with good form but pretty soft. North San Diego had sets at waist high and weakly lined up with decent form and super clean early. Oahu's North Shore was chest to head high at top spots and lined up and clean with decent form. The South Shore had sets at waist to chest high and lined up with good form and clean but soft. The East Shore was getting some north wrap-around swell with waves waist high and warbled from moderate east trades.

See QuikCASTs for the 5 day surf overview or read below for the detailed view.

Meteorological Overview
On Thursday (10/10) modest southern hemi swell was mostly gone in Hawaii though still hitting nicely in California originating from a gale that developed while lifting northeast from under New Zealand on Sat-Sun (9/29) with seas to 29 ft. And northerly swell was fading in Hawaii and California originating from a gale that fell from the Bering Sea over the Northwestern Gulf on Fri-Sat (10/5) with 23-26 ft seas aimed southeast. Down south another gale tracked east over the deep South Central Pacific Thurs-Fri (10/4) with 28-30 ft seas then lifted northeast Sat-Sun (10/6) with seas 25-27 ft. Swell likely for Hawaii and California. And up north perhaps another gale is to develop off Oregon on Fri (10/11) with 19 ft seas aimed southeast with a stronger system in the Northwestern Gulf on Fri-Sun (10/13) producing 26-31 ft seas aimed southeast. And more is possible from the South Pacific. Fall is starting to take hold but Summer is not done just yet.

See all the details below...

 

SHORT- TERM FORECAST
Current marine weather and wave analysis plus forecast conditions for the next 72 hours

North Pacific

Overview
Jetstream
On Thursday AM (10/10) the jetstream was consolidated tracking east just south of the Western Aleutians rising northeast up to the Eastern Aleutians with winds 160 kts then falling southeast over the Northeastern Gulf forming a pinched trough reaching south to a point well off North California offering some support for gale development then pushing inland over North CA. Over the next 72 hours that trough is to hold while pushing east into North CA on late Fri (10/11) offering some limited support for low pressure development. And on Fri (10/11) another trough is to start building over the Northwestern Gulf falling southeast from the Central Aleutians with winds 190-200 kts offering great support for gale development and slowly fading while tracking east into Mon (10/14). Beyond 72 hours remnants of that trough are to push into the Pacific Northwest starting Wed (10/16). And there's suggestions of another trough developing on the dateline on Thurs (10/17) . At that time the jet is to be running east on the 40N latitude line. Sure looks like a Fall pattern setting up.


Surface Analysis
On Thursday (10/10 swell from a small gale that developed in the Northwestern Gulf was fading in Hawaii and the US West Coast (see Northwest Gulf Mini-Gale below).

Over the next 72 hours a small local low pressure system is forecast developing in the Eastern Gulf (see Small Gulf Low below).

And on Thurs PM (10/10) a gale is to be falling southeast from the Central Bering Sea into the Northwestern Gulf producing 35-40 kt northwest winds south of the Central Aleutians with seas building aimed southeast. On Fri AM (10/11) northwest winds to be 35-40 kts falling southeast over the Northwestern Gulf with seas 23 ft at 48N 172W aimed southeast. Fetch builds more while tracking east in the evening with northwest winds 35-40 kts if not near 45 kts and seas 25-26 ft at 48N 166W aimed southeast. On Sat AM (10/12) the gale tracks east in the North Central Gulf with northwest winds 35-40 kts over a solid area and seas 31 ft at 50.5N 160.25W aimed southeast with 28 ft seas as far south as 45N 160W. In the evening northwest winds fade from 35+ kts still over a solid area with seas 29 ft at 50.25N 150.25W aimed southeast over a decent area. Fetch fading Sun AM (10/13) from 30-35 kts still filling the North Central Gulf with seas fading from 24-25 ft at 47N 150W aimed southeast. In the evening northwest winds fade from 30 kts and seas 21 ft at 46.75N 151.25W aimed southeast. The gale to dissipate after that. Something well worth monitoring.

 

Northwest Gulf Mini-Gale
On Fri AM (10/4) a gale started falling southeast from the East Bering Sea into the Northwestern Gulf with northwest winds 30-35 kts over a small but building area with seas building from 26 ft over a tiny area at 52N 168W aimed southeast. In the evening 30-35 kt northwest winds held over the Northwestern Gulf with seas 23 ft over a small area at 51N 163W targeting Hawaii and the mainland. Fetch was fading Sat AM (10/5) with northwest winds 30-35 kts clear of the Eastern Aleutians and seas 19 ft at 52.5N 154W aimed east and southeast. In the evening northwest winds were falling southeast at 30-35 kts with seas 19 ft at 50.75N 165.5W aimed southeast. Fetch was fading out fast after that with seas fading Sun AM (10/8) from 19 ft at 50.5N 164.5W aimed southeast. The gale to dissipate after that. Something to monitor.

Oahu: Dribbles Thurs AM 910/10) fading from 2.9 ft @ 11 secs (3.0 ft). Swell Direction: 340 degrees

North CA: Residuals Thurs (10/10) fading from 3.1 ft @ 12 secs (3.5 ft). Swell Direction: 306-308 degrees

 

Small Gulf Low
On Wed PM (10/9) a small gale was developing in the Central Gulf producing 30-35 kts southwest winds over a tiny area with seas building. On Thurs AM (10/10) the gale was building producing northwest winds at 35-40 kts with seas building from 18 ft over a tiny area at 41.5N 152W aimed southeast. In the evening the gale is to track east with 30-35 kt northwest winds in the Eastern Gulf off North CA with seas 19 ft at 40N 148W aimed southeast. Fetch is to be fading Fri AM (10/11) with northwest winds 25 kts just off North CA and seas 17 ft at 37N 141W aimed southeast. The gale to dissipate from there while pushing into North CA. Something to monitor.

North CA: Rough data suggest small swell to reach the North CA coast on Sat (10/12) in the late afternoon building to 5.0 ft @ 10-11 secs (5.0 ft). Swell peaking just before sunrise on Sun (10/13) at 5.0 ft @ 11-12 secs slowly fading through the day (5.5 ft). Swell Direction: 270-275 degrees

 

North Pacific Animations: Jetstream - Surface Pressure/Wind - Sea Height - Surf Height

 

Tropical Update
No tropical systems of interest are occurring or forecast.

California Nearshore Forecast
(North CA is defined as the area north of the Golden Gate - Central CA from Pt Conception to the Golden Gate, and Southern CA everywhere south of Pt Conception).

  • Fri AM (10/11) low pressure is to be approaching North CA with south winds 5 kts for Cape Mendocino and northwest 5 kts south of there and 5-10 kts for Central CA early. In the afternoon south to be 10 kts for North CA and northwest winds 5-10 kts for Central CA. No meaningful windswell forecast.
  • Sat AM (10/12) the front impacts North CA with south winds 10-15 kts for Cape Mendocino and south 10 kts for the rest of North CA and northwest 5-10 kts for Central CA. In the evening south winds fade from 5 kts for North CA and northwest 10 kts for Central CA. Local windswell from the low arriving later. Light rain for North CA mainly near Cape Mendocino early.
  • Sun AM (10/13) northwest winds to be 5 kts for North CA early and 5-10 kts for Central CA. In the evening northwest winds to be 5 kts for North CA and northwest 10-15 kts mainly south of Monterey Bay.
  • Mon AM (10/14) northwest winds to be 10-15 kts for North CA and northwest 15 kts for Central CA mainly south of Monterey Bay early. In the afternoon northwest winds to be 10-15 kts for North CA and 15 kts for Central CA.
  • Tues AM (10/15) northwest winds are to be 10-15 kts for North CA early and 15 kts south of Monterey Bay. In the afternoon high pressure starts building with northwest winds 15 kts for North and Central CA but very shallow. No windswell forecast. Light rain for Cape Mendocino in the afternoon.
  • Wed AM (10/16) northwest winds to be 10 kts for Cape Mendocino and 15 kts south of there and 15 kts for Central CA and 20 kts south of Monterey Bay. No change in the afternoon. Light rain for extreme north Cape Mendocino.
  • Thurs AM (10/17) possible low low pressure developing off California with no winds for North CA early and northwest winds 10 kts for Central CA but 15-20 kts south of Monterey Bay. Rain for Cape Mendocino early.

Total snow accumulation for the next 10 days respectively for Squaw Valley, Sugar Bowl, Kirkwood and Mammoth are projected at 0, 0 , 0 and 0 inches inches respectively. Precip limited a good bit north of the CA-Oregon border.

Temperatures for the intersection of Tioga Pass Road and the John Muir Trail (Toulomne Meadows - 8700 ft): Freeze Level 12,500 ft holding steady moving forward and falling to 5.000 ft briefly early Fri (10/18) then quickly rebounding to the 12,500 ft mark. At the intersection level (8,700 ft) temps to be 50-55 degrees through Tues (10/15) then falling to 25 degrees early Fri (10/18) before quickly warming to 45-50 degrees later Sat (10/19).

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Tioga Pass/Pacific Crest Trail intersection forecast: Temps - Freeze Level
More locations here (scroll down to 'Resort Snow Forecasts>Central CA or North CA Caltrans & Backcountry')

Snow Models: http://www.stormsurf.com/mdls/menu_snow.html (Scroll down for Resort specific forecasts).

 

South Pacific

Overview
Surface Analysis
Swell is fading in California from a tiny gale previously just east on North New Zealand (see Tiny New Zealand Gale below).

Over the next 72 hours swell is to be starting to hit Hawaii and bound for California from another New Zealand Gale (see Another New Zealand Gale below). And yet more swell is possible as a gale builds over the Central South Pacific (see Central South Pacific Gale below).

 

Another New Zealand Gale
On Sat AM (9/28) a gale started developing south of New Zealand producing southwest winds at 40-45 kts and seas building from 26 ft at 56.75S 166.5E aimed northeast. In the evening southwest winds were 35 kts and seas 29 ft over a small area at 56S 173.5E aimed northeast. The gale is to grow in coverage while lifting north on Sun AM (9/29) with 35-40 kt south winds and seas 27 ft at 52.25S 177W aimed northeast. Fetch fading in the evening from 35 kts with seas 26 ft at 48.5S 169.75W aimed northeast. Mon AM (9/30) the gale was pushing well north while fading with 30-35 kt south winds and seas fading from 25 ft at 43S 166W aimed north. Swell is pushing northeast.

Southern CA: Swell builds some more on Thurs (10/10) to 2.1 ft @ 15 secs mid-day (3.0 ft). Swell fading on Fri (10/11) from 1.6 ft @ 13-14 secs (2.0 ft). Swell Direction: 215 moving to 211 degrees

North CA: Swell builds some more on Thurs (10/10) to 2.0 ft @ 15 secs early (3.0 ft). Swell fading on Fri (10/11) from 2.0 ft @ 13-14 secs (2.5 ft). Swell Direction: 216 moving to 212 degrees

 

Central South Pacific Gale
On Thurs AM (10/3) a gale was pushing east over the deep Central South Pacific southeast of New Zealand with southwest winds 45 kts and seas 31 ft at 62.25S 178.75E aimed east. In the evening southwest winds were 40 kts with seas 30 ft at 61S 169.25W aimed east-northeast. On Fri AM (10/4) the gale was lifting northeast with 35-40 kt southwest winds over a broad area and seas 29 ft at 57.25S 162.75W aimed northeast. In the evening southwest winds were 35 kts with seas 29 ft at 52S 157.5W aimed northeast. Fetch was fading some Sat AM (10/5) producing southwest winds at 30+ kts and seas 26 ft at 48.5S 149.5W aimed northeast. In the evening south winds rebuilt to 35-40 kts with seas 25 ft at 51.25S 139.5W aimed northeast. On Sun AM (10/6) south winds were holding at 35-40 kts with seas 27 ft at 50S 132.25W aimed northeast. In the evening the gale fell southeast with south winds 30-35 kts and seas 27 ft at 50S 132.25W aimed northeast. Swell is radiating northeast.

Oahu: Expect sideband swell arrival on Thurs (10/10) building to 0.9 ft @ 19 secs later (1.5-2.0 ft). Sideband swell building on Fri (10/11) to 1.7 ft @ 16-17 secs later (2.5-3.0 ft). Sideband swell fading some on Sat (10/12) from 1.8 ft @ 15-16 secs early (2.5-3.0 ft). Swell fading Sun (10/13) from 1.7 ft @ 13-14 secs early (2.0-2,5 ft). Dribbles on Mon (10/14) fading from 1.4 ft @ 15 secs early (2.0 ft). Swell Direction: 1890 moving to 175 degrees

Southern CA: Expect swell arrival on Sat (10/12) building to 1.3 ft @ 19 secs later (2.0-2.5 ft). On Sun (10/13) swell is to be building to 2.3 ft @ 17 secs later (3.5 ft). Swell builds on Mon (10/14) at 2.9 ft @ 15-16 secs later (4.0-4.5 ft). Swell fading some on Tues (10/15) from 2.7 ft @ 15 secs early (3.5-4.0 ft). Swell fading some on Wed (10/16) from 2.3 ft @ 13-14 secs early (3.0 ft). Swell fading Thurs (10/17) from 1.9 ft @ 13-14 secs early (2.5 ft). Residuals on Fri (10/18) fading from 1.6 ft @ 12-13 secs early (2.0 ft). Swell Direction: 197 moving to 186 degrees

North CA: Expect swell arrival on Sun (10/13) building to 2.0 ft @ 17-18 secs later (3.5 ft). Swell builds on Mon (10/14) at 2.9 ft @ 15-16 secs mid-day (4.5 ft). Swell fading some on Tues (10/15) from 2.6 ft @ 15 secs early (3.5-4.0 ft). Swell fading some on Wed (10/16) from 2.2 ft @ 14 secs early (3.0 ft). Swell fading Thurs (10/17) from 1.9 ft @ 13-14 secs early (2.5 ft). Residuals on Fri (10/18) fading from 1.7 ft @ 12-13 secs early (2.0 ft). Swell Direction: 196 moving to 185 degrees

 

South Pacific Animations: Jetstream - Surface Pressure/Wind - Sea Height - Surf Height

 

QuikCAST's

 

LONG-TERM FORECAST
Marine weather and forecast conditions 3-10 days into the future

North Pacific

Beyond 72 hours no clear signs of gale development is forecast.

 

South Pacific

Beyond 72 hours there's continues to be suggestion of a gale developing on Mon AM (10/14) in the Southeast Pacific with 35-40 kt southwest winds and seas building from 24 ft at 54.75S 136.25W aimed northeast. In the evening 40-45 kt south and southwest winds to be moving east with seas 29-30 ft at 53.75S 135.75W aimed northeast. The gale is to lift northeast on Tues AM (10/15) with 40-45 kts south winds and seas 33 ft at 50.5S 131.25W aimed northeast. Fetch fading in the evening from the south at 35-40 kts with seas 29 ft at 46S 125.75S aimed north and northeast. On Wed AM (10/16) the gale is to be fading while lifting northeast with south winds 35 kts and seas 26 ft at 46.75S 116.5W and east of the Southern CA swell window. Something to monitor.

 

MJO/ENSO Forecast

 

ENSO Neutral Trying to Turn to La Nina
Models Weaken Strength of La Nina
9 Kelvin Waves traversed the Pacific from Dec '22 through Dec 2023 erupting off Ecuador setting up El Nino for the Winter of 23-24. But that is over and cold water has traversed the subsurface equatorial Pacific and is starting to erupt off the coast of Ecuador with the remaining warm pool created by El Nino starting to dissipate in the East Equatorial Pacific. Regardless, the atmosphere is still weakly in El Nino mode and will continue from previous momentum while slowly fading through Fall of 2024 as La Nina builds underneath that background state.

MJO/ENSO Discussion
The Madden Julian Oscillation (MJO) is a periodic weather cycle that tracks east along the equator circumnavigating the globe. It is characterized in it's Inactive Phase by enhanced trade winds and dry weather over the part of the equator it is in control of, and in it's Active Phase by slackening if not an outright reversing trade winds while enhancing precipitation. The oscillation occurs in roughly 20-30 day cycles (Inactive for 20-30 days, then Active for 20-30 days) over any single location on the planet, though most noticeable in the Pacific. During the Active Phase in the Pacific the MJO tends to support the formation of stronger and longer lasting gales resulting in enhanced potential for the formation of swell producing storms. Prolonged and consecutive Active MJO Phases in the Pacific help support the formation of El Nino. During the Inactive Phase the jet stream tends to split resulting in high pressure and less potential for swell producing storm development. Wind anomalies in the Kelvin Wave Generation Area (KWGA) are key for understanding what Phase the MJO is in over the Pacific. The KWGA is located on the equator from 135E-170W and 5 degs north and south (or on the equator from New Guinea east to the dateline). West wind anomalies in the KWGA suggest the Active Phase of the MJO in the Pacific, and east anomalies suggests the Inactive Phase. In turn the Active Phase strengthens and the Inactive Phase weakens the jetstream, which in turn enhances or dampens storm production respectively in the Pacific.And the El Nino/La Nino cycle (collectively know as ENSO - El Nino Southern Oscillation) is a less frequent (about once every 7 years) but more impactful cycle that affects world wide weather. Specifically, strong El Nino events promote storm production in the Pacific while La Nina events suppress storm production. These therefore have a significant impact on the production of swell and surf. The paragraphs below analyze the state of the MJO and ENSO in the Pacific and provide forecasts for upcoming activity (or inactivity depending on the state and interaction of these two oscillations).

Overview: In 2019 warm equatorial waters were fading, and by August a tongue of cool water was tracking west on the equator from Ecuador over the Galapagos reaching to a point nearly south of Hawaii. A bit of a recovery tried to occur during Fall of 2019, with weak warm water building in the Nino 1.2 region, but cool water held in a pool off Peru. By April 2020 a cool pool was starting to build, forming a well defined cool tongue that evolved into La Nina, with it fully developing through July 2020. That pattern continued until late Fall 2022 when trades started fading and by early 2023 multiple Kelvin Waves were in flight with significant warming developing over the East Equatorial Pacific. La Nina was dead on 3/18/2023 with El Nino apparently developing. But it was not coupled with the atmosphere as of 7/20/2023.

LONG-RANGE PACIFIC STORM AND SWELL GENERATION POTENTIAL FORECAST
Winter 2024/25 = 4.0 (California & Hawaii)
Rating based on a 1-10 scale: 1 being the lowest (small and infrequent surf conditions), 5 being normal/average, and 10 being extraordinary (frequent events of large, long period swells)

Rationale: A underperforming El Nino faded in Feb 2024. The models projected development of a moderate La Nina by Summer 2024, but as of late Sept (2024) there was still no sign of it in the SOI though water temps in Nino3.4 were clearly moving in a La Nina direction. Considering it take 3+ months for La Nina symptoms to appear in the atmosphere after the ocean (Nino 3.4) turns solidly to a La Nina configuration, and the ocean is just now starting to make clear moves towards becoming solidly into a La Nina pattern, it seems La Nina will not fully build into the jetstream/atmosphere until Jan 2025. And 2 months later Winter will be fading and any support for La Nina to build will be fading with it. Therefore, we can assume we are at best going to be in weak La Nina conditions as we get deep into the Winter of '24/'25. Conversely El Nino 23/24 faltered because of a persistent high pressure background state (in the Pacific) attributable to the PDO being in a long running cold state (which in turn mimics a modest La Nina background state). And there is no signs of that changing. The net result is that the atmosphere is stuck in a long running weak La Nina background state which in turn suppresses storm and swell development effectively setting up an atmosphere with no momentum towards either strong La Nina or strong El Nino. As a result the forecast for the coming winter season will reflect the atmospheres tendency to not actively support storm formation though not actively completely hindering it either.

KWGA/Equatorial Surface Wind Analysis (KWGA - Kelvin Wave Generation Area - The area 5 degrees north and south of the equator from 170W to 135E)
Analysis (TAO Buoys): As of (10/9) Water sensors are down in the east. 5 day average winds were strong from the east over the East equatorial Pacific and strong east over the Central Pacific and moderate to strong east over the KWGA. Anomalies were neutral over the East equatorial Pacific and modest east over the Central Pacific and modest east over the KWGA. (Note: These are 5 day average winds, versus realtime, so they lag what is happening today (by about 2.5 days).
2 Week Forecast (GFS Model): (10/10) Today moderate east anomalies were filling the KWGA. The forecast suggests moderate east anomalies are to build in strength filling the KWGA 10/13 through 10/21 but west anomalies start building in the far West KWGA 10/18 holding through the end of the model run on 10/16. East anomalies to be fading 10/22 in the East KWGA and almost neutral at the end of the model run. The Inactive MJO continues but the end is near.

Kelvin Wave Generation Area wind monitoring model: West and East

MJO/WWB/Wind Projections:  
OLR Models: (10/9) Currently a neutral MJO pattern (neither wet or dry air) was over the KWGA. The statistic model depicts more of the same until day 10 of the model run with a weak Active MJO (wet air) developing holding on day 15 of the model run. The dynamic model depicts the same thing but with the Active MJO pattern reaching moderate strength the last day of the model run (day 15).
Phase Diagrams - 2 week forecast (CA and GEFS): (10/10) - The models depict the Active Phase was weak over the East Indian Ocean. The statistic model has it moving slowly east to the West Pacific over the next 2 weeks and very weak. The dynamic model depicts a slower eastward track reaching the far East Maritime Continent at modest strength. The long range models suggest it moving through the West Pacific to Africa and very weak 1 month out.
40 day Upper Level Model (assumed to be a statistical model and 1 week ahead of what is occurring at the surface): (10/10) This model depicts a weak Active MJO pattern (wet air) building in the West KWGA. It is to track east through the KWGA and east of it by 10/30. A moderate Inactive Phase (dry air) is to again start moving over the KWGA on 10/30 moving east and almost east of it at the end of the model run on 11/19.
4 Week CFS Model (850 mb wind): (10/9)
Fresh Data has returned! - Today the Inactive Phase was peaking over the KWGA with strong east anomalies filling the KWGA. The forecast has the Inactive MJO fading on 10/16 with east anomalies filling the KWGA at strong status through 10/15 then fading to modest status but holding filling 75% of the KWGA through the end of the model run on 11/6. West anomalies to develop in the far West KWGA 10/17 holding through the end of the model run.
3 Month CFS Model (850 mb wind): (10/10) - using the 5th ensemble member - the mean of the 4 individual members which are all from the 00Z run - 1 run per day):
Today a moderate Inactive Phase was pushing through the KWGA with moderate east anomalies in control. It is to track east through the KWGA through 10/24. Another Active Phase is to develop in the west starting 10/20 and pushing east through 11/12 with west anomalies filling the KWGA starting 10/18 and beyond. A very weak Inactive Phase is to follow starting 11/12 but with a mix of weak east and west anomalies filling the KWGA through 12/13. The Active Phase is to follow with west anomalies mainly west of the dateline through the end of the model run on 1/7/25. The low pass filter indicates the low pressure bias is over the Indian Ocean (starting 4/28) with one contour. A second contour is forecast 10/20-11/4. The high pressure bias started to develop in the Pacific on the dateline 5/4-8/3 then collapsed to nothing. It is to return weakly over the dateline 10/20 with 1 contour over a thin area maybe expanding slightly through the end of the model run but never having a second contour line. The model has now downgraded suggesting a more normal weak La Nina pattern now forecast.

CFSv2 3 month forecast for 850 mb winds, MJO, Rossby etc - Alternate link

Subsurface Waters Temps
TAO Array: (10/10) Today in the far West Pacific the 30 degree isotherm was retrograding from 175E to 165E. The 29 degree isotherm was retrograding from 175W to 179W. The 28 deg isotherm line was steady at 168W. The 24 degree isotherm was pushing east the whole way across the Equatorial Pacific and thicker in the east now. Anomaly wise, warm anomalies were +1 degs in the far West Pacific and +1-2 degrees in the East. A pool of cold anomalies at up to -1.0 degs were centered subsurface down 125m at 170W reaching to the surface between 140W to 165W but this is questionable due to lack of sensors east of 155W. The hi-res GODAS animation posted 10/5 clarifies the situation indicating cold anomalies reaching to the surface east of 170W filling the entire East Equatorial Pacific thermocline other than a few shallow pockets of warm water in the east. But, the density of that cold water was significantly less than day and weeks past with the density of warm anomalies west of there building started at 170W and points west of there. La Nina is here but there is no pathway for more cold water to move from the West Pacific eastward. The GODAS animation is 1 week behind the TAO data but also is more detailed and accurately depicted since its satellite based.
Sea Level Anomalies: (10/5) Sea heights over the equatorial Pacific were negative at -5 cms from Ecuador to 150W (previously the dateline) with -10 cms shrinking in coverage at 130W. -15 cm anomalies are gone. It appears the cool pool is losing density and intensity fast. Per the Upper Ocean Heat Anomaly Histogram (10/5) cold water started filling the Equatorial Pacific early March then retracted in June, rebuilt in coverage mid-July, then retracted in Aug, rebuilt in early Sept from 180W to Ecuador but started quickly fading the end of Sept. Today the cool pool is fading fast only reaching west to 139W. A clear La Nina pattern is in play with 5 pulses so far. Warm water is limited in coverage west of the dateline and cool water east of there to Ecuador. But, t
he Subsurface temperate forecast suggests that this is the last pulse of cold water forecast with warm water in the west blocking the development of any more cold water Kelvin Waves. Interesting. Is the subsurface cool pool devolving?

Surface Water Temps
The more warm water in the equatorial East Pacific means more storm production in the North Pacific during winter months (roughly speaking). Cold water in that area has a dampening effect. Regardless of what the atmospheric models and surface winds suggest, actual water temperatures are a ground-truth indicator of what is occurring in the ocean. All data is from blended infrared and microwave sensors.
Satellite Imagery
Hi-res Nino1.2 & 3.4 Qualitative Analysis: (10/9) The latest images depict a La Nina cool stream was limited on the equator between 120W to 165W. The current pulse of cooling surface waters are holding. We are in a transitional phase moving from El Nino to neutral and perhaps La Nina, but not strongly.
Hi-res 7 day Trend (10/9): Pockets of cooling were fading between the Galapagos to 140W. A La Nina pulse seems to be holding for the moment.
Nino1.2 Daily CDAS Index Temps: (10/10) (The official OISST temp record runs about +0.2 degrees higher). Today's temps were falling at -1.089 previous falling hard to -1.468 (9/27). Temps were falling the previous 10 days but steady before (since 8/7) at roughly -0.75 degs after reaching a low on 7/29 near -1.1 degs, falling the previous 3 weeks after briefly being up near +0.0 (7/7-7/11) after rising from -1.008 (on Tues 6/25). Previously the trend has been steady at roughly -0.750 since 5/14. Highlights from the recent past are -1.105 (5/28), -1.014 (5/16) rising to +0.184 degrees (5/2) after falling to -0.843 (4/21) and -0.565 on 4/1 and has been below 0 since 3/19.
Nino 3.4 Daily CDAS Index Temps:
(10/10) (OISST runs about +0.2 degrees higher). Today's temps were steady at -0.976 after reaching up to -0.741 on 10/1 after falling to -1.049 on 9/21 and had been falling steadily in pulses since 6/30. Temps fell below the zero mark on 5/20 and but then rebuilt hovering near neutral 6/2 through 6/30. Previously temps have been in the +1.2 deg range since 3/11. Temps were at +1.2 degs or higher since 1/13. Temps had been in the +1.5 range 11/19-1/12.
Weekly OISST
Anomalies were Not Available for week of 10/25 (presumably due the Helene outages), -0.5 degs (week of 9/18) the first time solidly negative. Previously temps were near neutral since 5/8/24. Weekly values were -0.2 (9/11), -0.1 (9.4), -0.2 (8/28), 0.0 (8/21), -0.1 degrees (8/14) +0.0 (8/7) -0.2 degrees (7/31) and the first week negative in a year, +0.1 (week of 7/24), +0.2 (7/17), +0.3 (7/10 and 7/3), +0.4 ( 6/26) +0.3 (6/19) +0.0 (week of 6/12) +0.1 (6/5 & 5/29) +0.2 degs (5/15 and 5/22), +0.3 (5/8), +0.5 (5/1), +0.8 (4/24), +0.7 (week of 4/17), +0.9 (4/10), +1.2 (week of 4/3), +1.0 (3/27), +1.3 (3/20), +1.1 degs (3/13), +1.4 (3/6), +1.3 (2/28), +1.5 (2/14 & 2/21) +1.7 (2/7), +1.8 (1/31). +1.7 (1/24 & 1/17) up at +1.9 (1/10 & 1/3), +2.0 (12/27, 12/20 and 12/13) after being at +1.9 (12/6), +2.0 (11/29) and +2.1 (11/22 - the highest), then +1.9 (11/15) and +1.8 degs (11/8 & 11/1).
Monthly Data
is falling from +1.72 Oct, +2.02 Nov, +2.02 Dec and +1.82 Jan and +1.52 Feb, +1.12 March, +0.78 April, +0.24 May, +0.18 June, +0.05 July and -0.07 August.
3 Month ONI (centered relative) 3 month period is -0.44 (JJA), -0.39 (MJJ), -0.21 (AMJ), +0.07 MAM, +0.48 FMA, +0.86 JFM, 1.21 for DJF and +1.47 ft for NDJ (just short of minimal Super El Nino status) and +1.49 OND . All others were less than that.

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CFSV2 Forecast for Nino3.4 Sea Surface Temp (SST) Anomalies & Current SST Anomalies

SST Anomaly Projections
CFSv2 Data (Nino3.4 Region)
Previous - Temps rose to +0.50 degs mid-May 2023, +0.9 degs in mid-June, and +1.05 mid July reaching up to +1.30 degs early Aug, +1.6 degs in Sept holding in Oct and , +1.95 in Nov, +2.0 in Dec and +1.85 in Jan 2024 and +1.65 in Feb then down to +0.75 degs mid-April, +0.25 mid May and then 0.25 mid June falling to -0.15 degs in mid-Aug and -0.5 in late Sept. Temps are not actually falling as fast as forecast.
Forecast (10/10) - Temps to fall to -1.00 mid-Oct, peaking down at -1.05 degs in Dec 2024 before rebounding to neutral in April 2025. The PDF Corrected forecast effectively suggests the same trend but with temps to -0.90 in Oct then down to -0.95 degs in Dec. According to this version of the model we are moving to a weak La Nina.
IRI Consensus Plume: The September 19, 2024 Plume (all models) depicts temps are -0.500 degs today and is the 4th month below neutral since El Nino developed. Temps to fall steadily from here forward down to -0.656 in Nov (3 month running mean) then then rising from there. This is an upgrade with temps previously forecast down to -0.944 (per the April model run). The Dynamic model suggest temps falling to -0.862 in Nov and the Statistic down to -0.339 in Jan. Both these projections are colder than the month before.
See chart here - link.

Atmospheric Coupling (Indicating the presence of El Nino in the atmosphere driven by the ocean):
Southern Oscillation Index (SOI) (negative is good, positive bad - all but the Daily Index was a lagging indicator):
Today (10/10) the Daily Index was positive at 7.09 today and has been mostly positive for 14 days running, negative the previous 5 days, positive 4 days previous, negative the 11 days before that, positive 22 days previous. Over the past month it was a mix of positive and negative.
The 30 day average was rising some at 0.12 and has been generally positive the last month. Recent max lows were -19.26 on 2/20, -10.43 on 11/16 and -15.70 on 9/23.
The 90 day average was rising slightly at 0.54 and neutral the last month. Thee first positive value was on 9/5 since the demise of El Nino. Recent max lows were -11.14 on 11/17, -11.85 on 10/15.
We are in ENSO neutral status.

Pacific Decadal Oscillation
(Negative is bad, Positive is good) The PDO theoretically turned from a 16 year negative run (Jan '98-Feb 2014) turning weakly positive March 2014 holding into June 2017 (up to +1.86 driven by the 2015-16 El Nino) then turned neutral. It went negative again 10/2019 and hard negative in 10/2021-10/2023 driven by a 3 year La Nina conditions (down to -3.13). It started rising (but still negative) 11/2023-2/2024 driven by a strong El Nino, but not enough to even get it to break positive ground (best reading at -1.33 on 2/24). It then started falling to -1.52 in March 2024, -2.12 April, -2.99 May, -3.16 in June, -2.99 July and -2.88 Aug. Looking at the long term record, it seems likely we are stable and still in the Cool Phase of the PDO (La Nina 'like') since 5/1998 with no signs of moving to the positive/warm phase (El Nino 'like').

See imagery in the ENSO Powertool 


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